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robin, there is a rather rare '89 phase 2 on ebay right now thats sitting at £585. there is a link in the for sale section that takes you to it on ebay. why not buy that one and put all the goodies you have on it? it is red though, but if you dont need to spend a fortune making it mechanically sound then why not get it re-sprayed? and keep your old red one for spares. ive never seen an 89 with the full ph2 kit on.

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Hi Rosco,

yes i had already seen that red one but its on a g and even older than mine and also running uncoated steel hydraulic lines which im not a big fan of at that age! My f reg gti 8v started bursting them one by one in 2000 so i got rid of it.

On a brighter note i dont think i can bring myself to tear my 16v apart it would probably break my heart so im going to try and put some sort of rescue package together. I have a bloke from a local body shop coming out to have a look at it to give me a quote for the door shuts and inner wing but he didnt seem too enthusiastic about it and said he might not want to take it on :cry: , Im also going to go and see mal at mal motors ( citroen guy round here who ownes 2 16v,s) to see if he would be intrested in dropping the subframe and fuel tank to weld the small hole up then re-pipe the rear end ( god knows what thats going to cost )

I cant do this on my own and need as much help as i can get also moneys limited so the car may have to sit around for a bit while i have it repaired in stages. Many bx items will be appearing on ebay to fund the repair fees so look out for a wind deflector, bbr star chip and many more bits!.

NZ 16V:- the muskiteer bonnet is provisionly sold im just waiting for the buyer to confirm if they want it or not.

thats all for now folks

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ok, muskiteer bonnet and bbr starchip are now sold proceeds going towards my fix bx 16v fund :D
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great news rob!
really pleased for you fella! will keep a look out for your ebay auctiions and other bits and bobs!!! :wink:
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hey robin, glad you've decided to save it again! i do think your rather nutz being willing to pay so much for work that really is easily done. think of it this way, after you've paid out loads of money the car, it will be sound again and for a good while but how long will it be until whats currently small spots of rot have grown and you find yourself in the same situation again?

i really think the more sound investment would be skills and equipment, they will cost less and last alot longer. when i bought my tranny van for £220 'cos the guy lost the keys' i thought it appeared to be in not too bad a condition rust wise. that was until i took it into work got it on a ramp and went under it with a torch and a hammer :twisted: it turned out to have more holes in it than a tea bag :lol: and some big enough to fit a small kettle into :lol: . instead of scrapping it i bought and arc welder, went to the scrappers and cut the majority of the side off a transit with my grinder then started teaching myself using the scrap as a learning board. anyways after some practice i put 7 plates on my van, fibre glassed the wheel arches and crossed my fingers. to my delight it passed its mot so at least i will get 1 year out of it, and i can now weld everything else that i have which is currently rotting away.

reconsider the option of turning this issue into a learning curve as it will pay off in the long run by far. as for bx pipes, the tool costs less than £200 and comes with a life time garantee, also copper piping is £25 for 25 feet so you could re-pipe the front to rears for not alot of cash and again would have the tool forever, also these pipes really could be fitted by an autistic chimpanzee, its that easy.

anyways i wont go on about it forever and personally i would love to help you out with your car but im sooooo far away. lol maybe as a club we should have annual meets simply to swap skills, repair each others cars and help keep everyones car on the road :lol:

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dad said hes going to get a guy at work to teach him how to weld on a mig. In the mean time i cant do anything as i need a garage to rent as i cant get the subframe and pipes down here, Its not the sort of area for that and our garage isnt big enough. Once the subframes out im considering having it blasted and powdercoated and ill fit some new gators on the rear suspension cylinders as mine are perished and i think ill fit some new spheres on there to as mine have been on there since i bought the car nine years ago. Oh and i need to rebuild the drivers side arm bearing as its gone again after 6 years. The other sides just been done.
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im struggling to get a welder now!. No one wants to touch it because of getting the fire risk insurance and patches start at £50 each. Why do i have to live in the crapest part of the country to get anything done.
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surely there must be a local back street garage that will do the job for beer/food/cash? THats how i've had my welding done in the past! Would the situation be any better in Macc?
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Rob, hang in there matey! you'll find somone soon!
a lot of the bodyshops deal mainly in insurance work where they know they will make money so private work like yours all be it a fair size of job effectively they dont want to touch (mostly as its older than the normal jobs so they would have to think about what they are doing!!)
am pretty sure Sonny can weld?? might be worth asking mikeif he fancies it?? either that or have a nose at some of the mobile guys?? maybe one of them would be prepared to do it?
am keeping my fingers crossed for you fella! and really hoping someone will pop up and crack the lot for yoU!!!!
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Surely some of the members of car clubs you use must actually be able to do some jobs themselves? there has to be someone you know who is handy with a welder?
I bumped into a mate last weekend who is a welder by trade and he happily informed me he had just treated himself to a TIG along with cooler and some other goodies I had neve rjeard of LOL! but then he does drive a Trans Am :twisted:

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Rob, Does Ray do any welding matey?? surely for the time he kept your RS for he could do you a decent price maybe??(and possibly have the space to be able to drop the tank etc.?? ) there used to be a mobile guy in lostwithiel, but, that may be clutching at straws as that was 10 years ago!
i know niel webb will do welding but he isnt cheap at the best of times!!there is always sandy garage down on par ind est. no idea what they are like now, i had a bad experience with them many years ago whe i had 309, unclipped braided brake line after cogbox replacement meant brakes failed on the A30 when towing a boat!! and they refused to admit fault! that and they fitted the wrong box! but that was when he used to empoly apprentices as they were cheaper!!

i'll have an ask and see if any of the guys i knwo still up there know anyone decent??
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The main problem ive got is i have nowhere to work on the car at the mo. I need a garage/shared unit, i cant drop the subframe here or work on the car to that degree. Once i have somwhere to put the car i can then get on with taking the subframe out to send it to be blasted and powdercoated and whilst thats out i can clean up the area of the hole and get a mobile welder ( if i can find one ) to plate the subframe mount hole, chassis rail and wheel arch hole, I can then re-underseal the areas, rebuild the subframe with new suspension cylinders/spheres, rebuild one of the arms while its out and then put the lot back in and get the rest done at a body shop. Thats the plan but i doubt it will happen that way.
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hey man, by the sounds of things you need to organise some storage/workspace first then worry about getting jobs done. by the way hss are really handy as you can hire welding equipment and generators from them fairly cheap and they probably have sandblasters too but dont quote me on that one. the work you want to do is big so i would defo advise getting a workshop organised then think about the work later. it is very handy having a workshop as you can do things bit by bit leaving the car in bits in the meantime without any problem. if your out in the sticks or near to then go speak to local farmers, thats where i got my red 16v stored at the mo cos of the vandals. i got storage on the farm there for £1 per day which is f*ck all really. if you have no luck finding someone to do the welding then im willing to help you out there but i wouldnt be able to do it for a few months as ive alot of sh*t on the now. if you prepped the car for me coming down then i could probably do all the welding in a day or two. your down the south coast way arent you? i will be in london at some point in the next few months as im going over to sicily for a wedding so wouldnt be too far from you then. let me know how you get on with finding a welder and we'll see what happens.

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rossco, bottom left on the map fella! robs in the middle of the county ish on the map but on the South coast of cornwall!
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ah ok, thats not too far from london. we will be driving down to london from edinburgh anyway as its more fun than sitting in the airport for 3 hrs to then be on a plane for 1. ive always wanted to visit the south west as ive been down the south east so many times. :D anyway wait and see what hapens, he might find someone who will do it without the requirement of a mortgage application form and alot of pleading :lol:

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