306GTI-6 gearbox in my 16V

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badlyworntoy
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Post by badlyworntoy »

just an update on this mod dudes.
This is a problem ive come accross doing the swap.They isnt any provision on the 306 gearbox for attaching the accumulator sphere or the brackets which support the bellhousing lower cover and pipe brakets.Anyway after much thinking and weilding of my grindng and the death of a 5 speed and a bit of tig welding, this is what i came up with..........its not pretty but once painted up it will be sharp forgotten about.The box on the left is the pug one [img][img]http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff3 ... y/0012.jpg[/img][/img] [img][img]http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff3 ... y/0032.jpg[/img][/img] [img][img]http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff3 ... y/0062.jpg[/img][/img]
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Post by Vanny »

perhaps a little too late now but is there any reason you couldn't just change the bell housing?

Or even easier, relocate the accumulator?
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well it did cross my mind to do both.i consulted my local gearbox specialist about swapping the bellhousings and the man didnt seem keen,says it was a lot of work....Im not a gearbox man???
I remember you talking about moving the accumulator but didnt fancy it to be honest.In my expeirence you stick to the factory option until you absoultly have no other option.I also have the added problem of boost pipes,intercoolers etc to work round and space is limited :( I didnt fancy fiddling on with microbore pipework,I just dont have the time. :wink:
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the holes for the FDV are there , but all it takes is some cutting weld a bracket to hold the press. reg.

But do like me ,get a xantia pump and pinion and fit it , u can do without the FDV..
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surjit25 wrote:the holes for the FDV are there , but all it takes is some cutting weld a bracket to hold the press. reg.

But do like me ,get a xantia pump and pinion and fit it , u can do without the FDV..
Feeting the Xantia pump to get rid of the FDV seems a very interesting option, but how will the xantia pump be installed over the gearbox?

Anyone already tried that?
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If you are using the XU9J4 then have to modify a pulley onto the xantia pump and create a new bracket on the gearbox to fit the pump.and modify pipings.

If you are using 8V engine, get the pump bracket from ZX or Xantia 1.6/1.8 and it will be direct bolt on but have to convert complete belt system to serpentine one.
I hv used XU10 8V on BX next I will try XU10JR4 (Xantia2) on and see the power diff. But this is done on a GTi 8V not 16V

My 16V is currently using a non power steering rack from a BX16RS
and it is not too bad, a tad bit heavy though like a GS. haven't had the time to modify a bracket and pulley on top of the gearbox and refit the PAS, I hv done away with the FDV on the 16V. The hyd pump clicks much much less now..

I think quite a no. of people in UK have done this mod.
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Post by soupapes »

I would love to see that. If anyone got pictures of that on a Turbo Diesel or 16V, please provide some pictures so i can ake some ideas.

The FDV has been annoying in my BX's and now Citroën does not provide the repair kit anymore.
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Post by surjit25 »

The FDV is a real pain, gives more problems, I hv seen spheres (main) exploding,
due to faulty FDV's and regulators., leaks ,difficult to change etc...
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Post by badlyworntoy »

My Dutch friend here is another slant on the troublesome reverse selector problem.......an electric one :lol:

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Post by cammmy »

Hi there. I haven't read the whole thread, so please feel free to flame me if this has already been mentioned :lol:

Is your car LHD or RHD? because you are going to basically lose all of your right hand turning lock. I mean it will be ridiculously bad.

My brothers GTi 6 has trouble making it round small roundabouts and we have only found about 2 roads (read air-strips) that he can actually u-turn on (and a GTi6 is shorter than a BX).

Not such a big deal in LHD cars that drive on the R/H side of the road. But here in NZ it can be pretty annoying at times.
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Post by badlyworntoy »

no she's right hand drive.Im aware that turning right may be a bit of an issue but under normal driving conditions I doubt it would be an issue. Have you managed to come up with a solution on your brothrs car?
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Post by cammmy »

Don't think there is one TBH. Just something you have to put up with as the box is physically longer than the 5spd.
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'91 Peugeot Mi16x4 x2
'74 Triumph TC2500
badlyworntoy
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Post by badlyworntoy »

Maybe a set of 22 inch rims? :lol:
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Post by surjit25 »

There were some cars here fitted with the 6speeder after using it the owners found it troublesome to turn and now reverted back to 5 speed

That reverse gear modded solenoid looks great very ingenious.
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Post by Vanny »

whats wrong with some spacers to push the tyres/rims away from the end of the cog box? And maybe (more realistically ;) ) some 17" rims?
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