superchips

[thanuttiscotsman]

hi there,
as many of you know jezziebx16v recently bought a superchip from e-bay for his 16v and is very please with it. now the auction has ended but the guys has plenty left and is willing to sell them for the same e-bay price to anyone who wants one. now i have ordered one for myself. now 25 quid is nowt for one of these!! so if you would like the chance to get one then just e-mail him and order one via george@gkoutsis.com . he seems a nice friendly chap so fire in if you want one.

cheers rossco

[tim leech]

But remember they can have a detrimental effect on your engine as in rasiing your revlimiter whcih can mean it guing BANG!

[thanuttiscotsman]

of course tim, iam one of the people who wont take mine to full power!! im just happy with the lower rev boost and i can say its chipped with xtra bhp, now for me thats cooooolll

[Mike E (uk)]

If you are unhappy with the engine's performance, it is probably not running properly.

On 'chips':
Superchips appear to be fitted with additional discrete components to prevent counterfeiting.

Some ebay chips are poor quality, as they are simply hacked about with standard chip with a higher rev limit, and no overrun fuel cut off.
These will cost you plenty in wasted fuel, for very little gain.

The BBR starchips performed best in tests when I compared them last year in my car. I compared with Citroen and Superchip. Superchip was worse than the Citroen part.

But the gains the BBR chip gave are small compared with getting your engine working properly to start with, which is not such a trivial matter on a 15 year old car.

So before you mess with the ECU,
replace/test:

plugs,
HT leads,
rotor arm + cap,
AFM and measure CO,
fuel filter,
clean the injectors,
fit clean airfilter,
check volts to coil,
remove air leaks in hoses etc,
& put it on a rolling road to check it does give 160hp.

If you are getting 160hp, you may well be happy.

If not, you may want to consider a few alterations.

But to get a big improvement, spend big money (or fit nitrous).

Mike

[robin hughes]

i have the collins power chip from colins performance fitted to mine plus they also re-mapped it for a smoother power curve (i have their graph from testing it). The colins chip does not have an extended rev limit as it is not needed (was explained why but to complicated for me to put down in words).

my engine has been fully re-built combined with-
the colins power chip/re-map
magnecor ht leads
H.K.S air filter (cone type)
and de-restricte exhaust (one box system)
the car was put on a rolling road and produced 169 bhp@7200 and 140 lb of tourque ( my tourque comes in lower down the rev range now due to the new power curve from the re-map

[Simran]

If your power curve drops off before maximum revs, there is no point raising the rev limit, you wont be using it. On modified cars where extra revs can make use of improved air flow through the engine and the power curve shows power is still rising when taken above standard rev limit, then a higher rev limit is of use.

[thanuttiscotsman]

If you are unhappy with the engine's performance, it is probably not running properly.

lol i never said there was anything wrong with my car the way it is. THERE'S NOT!!!

and jezziebx16v has already bought and installed one of these chips and is very pleased with the performance. so as i said if anyone would like to get one too there are still some availible. chipping the ecu is one of the easiest and cheapest ways of increasing your max bhp. so if chipping your car you are as well to use an rpm limit adjusting chip!!! as jezzie said he can now hit 60 mph in second gear. so im sure his 0-60 has now been trimmed by at least .5 - 1 second as he aint wasting time changing to third. thats what me likes.

rossco

[Jezziebx16v]

Lets get one thing clear, these chips ARE not superchips they are PUGSPORT chips and are more than likely a clone of something else, hence there low price.



Jez

[Toddman]

What Jez says is absolutely spot on.

Robin a chip contains a map anyway so if you fit a chip with a non std map then your ECU has been remapped - my car has been remapped but only withj a chip not a custom map and TBH it is not very good but better tryan std.
To do a proper remap the car needs to be on the rollers.

It is true that using high revs when power has dropped off is fruitless but....
You will be bale to hit 60mph in 2nd gear with 7500rpm so will reduce your 0-60 time to about 7secs

For the money I would say they are pretty good but I just like to know a little bit more about what is insid ethen i.e. a c;one from BBR or superchips or just a std map which has been tweeked by a pc guy and neber tested on a RR

Cheers
LUke

[Mike E (uk)]

The 0-60 may be reduced, but unless on a drag strip, the only advantage is in the pub conversation value.

The 1/4 mile drag will probably be improved slightly too.

I find my car needs a higher gear and hits the rev limiter when I am only about 30 feet from the finish line, which is a bit irritating each year at FCS, but not a problem on the road.

[robin hughes]

Hi luke,

i went to colins performance in congleton, cheshire because of its reputation with tuning high performance and turbo cars used in race and rally. The chip is their own unique chip with their own custom map. I understand what your saying as it only adds a few more horses but it defintly pulls better and the smoother power curve makes it easier to drive (for me that is)

[Anonymous]

I got hold of a binary of a starchip for the bx 16v several years ago and mailed copies to several people round the world on a few different forums (including the previous incarnation of this one) and I'm pretty certain at least some of these cheap obviously copied chips are copies of that file. Its just a shame I never received any of the chips I was promised in return for the binary...

[thanuttiscotsman]

hi there,
if they are copies of a good origional then that should mean that they are good.

cheers rossco

[robin hughes]

dads got a bbr star chip waiting to go in the green valver but after trashing 1 ecu im not sure about letting him do it again