Bx 16v 4x4..... The car Citroen should have produced

[Jezziebx16v]

found this whilst bored, think i'm gonna learn French

http://www.yaronet.com/posts.php?sl=&s=86219


Jez

[Mandic]

Looks like a good job, but! He said he used 4x4 shell and put 16V engine in, well lets consider some facts here;

Normal 4x4 system and Mi16 (T16) system differ a lot as not only Mi16 (and especially T16) is way stronger but the main difference is that normal 4x4 has manual diff lock, where Mi16 and T16 have "automatic"

He would have made a job much better if he used 4x4 shell, found Mi16x4, and used transferbox and all the bits and bolt them to a BX.

the biggest problem of this "transformation" I find in torgue, because 1.9 4x4 was more powerfull in lower revs, 16v is powerfull in higher revs. But it's interesting work

This simply is not true!

Cheers

Ziga

[Vanny]

what a hero!


So in less than a week i've found someone who's put a 16v into a 4x4 and it turns out Allards have turbo'd a 1.5 TUD in a pug 106, so thats two 'need to build a new toy' ideas gone (was gonna turbo my mums AX 1.5d).


Smeg


What to do now then?


Has anybody put a 2.0CT Xantia engine into a BX yet?

[tecw1979]

ive got 2 v6 engines ready for a bx... i sold the ct engine vanny, so feel free

unfortunatly in getting and selling these engines, ive ended up with a 205 mi16 :S

[Mandic]

Has anybody put a 2.0CT Xantia engine into a BX yet?

Maybe Dutch have done it, WYD?

Cheers

Ziga

[Timmo]

pretty sure one of the european members has ct'd there bx! sure i saw somehting on the old forum about it!

i remember that car though through the bumper as thats a 4tc bumper he made himself fore the car!! odd rear arches though! different! would prolly look good on a nice set of rims thoguh!

[Kitch]

Whats this about an 8v having more torque lol? They have the same amount, its just easier to reach.

Good project though, but he's ruined the body. That thing looks cack!

[Timmo]

iirc the 8v has less torque than the 16v! if it had the same then it would have more torque than the bhp output! i was pretty sure that the 8v had 118lbft (pug 8v gti with 130bhp!)

[Mandic]

8v hass less torque through entire rev range comparing 16V. It just seems "dead" low down as when it comes on cam the rise in TQ is so big.

Cheers

Ziga

[Jezziebx16v]

odd rear arches though!

I like them seem to remember a chap in the old gallery on 16v.com with a black 16v (Holst i think it was) who had his rear arches cut away.....anyways i think it looks cool .


Jez

[Kitch]

iirc the 8v has less torque than the 16v! if it had the same then it would have more torque than the bhp output! i was pretty sure that the 8v had 118lbft (pug 8v gti with 130bhp!)

On paper I guess so. But I'd be hard pushed to tell the difference in either, until the valver came on cam!

[RichL]

Smeg

What to do now then?

How about a 16v motor into a 2cv?
TWO 16v motors, for proper 4x4 action.


(Rumors that I work on commision for Sketchleys Dry Cleaners are completely unfounded...)

[kriskarrera]

iirc the 8v has less torque than the 16v! if it had the same then it would have more torque than the bhp output! i was pretty sure that the 8v had 118lbft (pug 8v gti with 130bhp!)

Yeah though the 8 valve 1.9i engine in the BX and 405 Sri has something like 127lbs of torque. Over on the 205 forum we've discussed all this at length and even compared graphs for both these engines from the 405 brochure.

[Anonymous]

Has anybody put a 2.0CT Xantia engine into a BX yet?

Maybe Dutch have done it, WYD?

Cheers

Ziga

Sorry, been busy for a while.
Friend of my is also still busy on his BX, the BX 4x4 2.0CT
Late october I'll make some pics from my BX TZi 16V and his 2.0T.

[thanuttiscotsman]

hhmmm the first ever 16v 4x4, i must say thats f****ng cool, great body styling as well, only the alloys let it down in that pic. but i love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rossco