Hello Newbie -with few questions on BX stats

[thanuttiscotsman]

hey surjit, if you want a chip then this guy does them cheap, they are as far as ive been told probably copied/clone chips from an origional pug sport 405 mi16 chip, i have one in my car and it performs very well. cost me £25 + postage. george @gkoutsis. com (there is no spaces in the address! just close the gaps!!) he is in belguim but is genuine.

rossco

[tali]

Said to be only 500 4x4 imported into UK.

[robin hughes]

we no longer have the triton green 16v but believe it still lives on in southampton. Mine however i still have in daily use so thats 1 red one still around. Puzzling thing is that it is an early 1992 registerd non cat k plate but the rp number gives it a build date of june 1991 whitch if it was registered as soon as it was built it would have been a late h plate. It has just over a year between build date and registration which makes me think it could have been a demo?? i cant see it being sat a year myself?. Whats also mystifying is its a 3 row ecu but had the wiring for a knock sensor but no knock sensor fitted and its also never had an engine management ( k ) light. Its been investigated but theres not one there so its not just a case of a duff bulb.

[Vanny]

mine was built early 1991 but only just managed to get a J-reg so it was also sat for about a year. Demo's still have to be registered so it is more likely that it sat in france for a year (but at least it was mostly the summer!).

Infact the car i have just scrapped was similar age, same reg, and like my engine originally it had the knock sensor wiring and the knock sensor. In my experience all cars after a certain date early 1991 had a knock sensor so i would say it is VERY strange that the sensor isnt fitted to your engine. Also ALL three row cars have a K-light but they are simply a plug in from the main injection loom so it is more than possible that it might have been removed. In the cars i've had appart the K-light is a dark green and very thin wire unlike anything else used on the BX which makes me think it might have been retro fit and hence easily forgotten.

Is the actual 'K' there at all? or is it a 4x4 diff lock symbol? If its the 4x4 (or anything other than the k light) this might point to a change of speedo head in the past, in which case the wire for the light is likely still there if you know where to look.

[thanuttiscotsman]

hey robin, how are ya? not spied you around here for a bit! i am currently working on my red ph1 as my main project although it is going very slow the noo because of vandal issues! but anyways maybe a previous owner of your car had changed the system for reliability or something??

rossco

[Kitch]

Thanks Vanny for detailed reply
I recall Autocar published some figures in their Top 50 Used cars- it was iirc about 1100 BX16v - although that was some 10 years ago.
As for the purple 16v i asked because What Car? magazine definitely had one (with leather aswell) for a 4 car group test in a company car supplement.It was either G or H reg.I actually had this magazine - but sadly got binned without my knowledge
It's odd to think that at the time my brother had his i could recall another 3 within a 1.5 mile radius (red, black and white)

I've got that road test, it's graphite grey. Had leather too, was pitched against the 318is, Audi 80 Sport and Saab 900S.

It came third! I'll scan it in when the scanners working!

[robin hughes]

hello mr scottsman! ,

im still around and come on here regular i just dont post that much now. Got a few projects on the go that take my time up - Im rebuilding an old mk 2 ford orion 1.6i ghia that came from a salvage yard as an mot faliure. and my s2 escort rs turbo is nearly finished and should be pushing a good 250 bhp when it comes back in 3 weeks. Bx still going ok but im going to pull it off the road when i get the rs back so i can put a few niggles right.

Vanny,

The original clocks ( i still have in the garage as i have red lockwood dials now fitted ) have the k light
symbol but there was no bulb fitted so i fitted a bulb and nothing happened changed it again for another bulb and again nothing all plugs and wiring seen to be in order. I have since fitted a knock sensor and connected the plug up but i dont know if it is working or not? I wonder why the k lights been disconected ( if it has? ) Is it easy to put back?

[Vanny]

you need the wire, funny coloured green one, pretty long lead (goes directly to the ECU) has black male plug (female connector) one one end, and one of the funny 'S' shape dash connectors at the other end which possibly goes into the big green multiway connector. Could well have come undone somewhere.

If the knock sensor is turned on in the ECU then plugging a sensor in will have it automatically start using the input. I would imagine that if you hit the head of the bolt a few times (lightly) with the car running and plugged into a NOX probe then you might be able to see if it works, other wise fuel is pretty good in this country so you will likely notice no difference!

[surjit25]

thanuttiscotsman, I am very wary about clone chips they claim heaven and earth but actually no go.
Nothing like the real stuff SUPERCHIP..
but will try that out and see. Thanks.

[tali]

Thanks Vanny for detailed reply
I recall Autocar published some figures in their Top 50 Used cars- it was iirc about 1100 BX16v - although that was some 10 years ago.
As for the purple 16v i asked because What Car? magazine definitely had one (with leather aswell) for a 4 car group test in a company car supplement.It was either G or H reg.I actually had this magazine - but sadly got binned without my knowledge
It's odd to think that at the time my brother had his i could recall another 3 within a 1.5 mile radius (red, black and white)

I've got that road test, it's graphite grey. Had leather too, was pitched against the 318is, Audi 80 Sport and Saab 900S.

It came third! I'll scan it in when the scanners working!

Yup that's the one- looked purple in my mag! .Got beaten by cars which were far far slower- yet no cheaper to insure , more expensive ,less well equipped, not as exlusive , less practical - go figure!
Scan please !

[Timmo]

that would be because the Bx was an is an Aquired taste, not for the common run of the millers!
and get an unfavoring tester and thats your answer!

you only have to think of the Used Car Road Show article on the 16v with Kitch and Mike p's cars, Jason dawe's opinion was very high yet penny mallory did nothing but belittle them!

[thanuttiscotsman]

they claim heaven and earth but actually no go.

well man i have to say that a clone chip is exactly that! a clone, an exact replica of the real thing therefore performing in exactly the same way and improving the cars performance in the same way as an origional. i have had my chip in my car for over a year now and absolutely no problems at all. one thing thats for sure is these chips definatly do give much greater performance throughout the range and do increase the max bhp. i have tested mine fairly extensivly on the road, i have a chipped ecu and an un-chipped one under the drivers seat! lol i have run the car un-chipped then swapped ecu's for the chipped one and the difference is that im sure my car would beat the performance of another valver that wasn't fitted with one and beat it by a fair amount! you should defo give em a go before knockin them, you will be surprised!

cheers rossco

[tali]

that would be because the Bx was an is an Aquired taste, not for the common run of the millers!
and get an unfavoring tester and thats your answer!

you only have to think of the Used Car Road Show article on the 16v with Kitch and Mike p's cars, Jason dawe's opinion was very high yet penny mallory did nothing but belittle them!

By Citroen standards the BX in general was quite mainstream - judging by huge numbers sold (esp diesels)
16V was outsold by more conformist option of 405 Mi-16- although even that and other direct rivals never sold in large numbers.