Ive had this problem for a while now but i thought i had cured it when we changed the fuel lines . When the car is cold it starts first turn of the key but when its warm it takes around 12 turns of the starter motor before firing up???????. Ive checked the fuel lines and theres no leaks, Ive adjusted the co mixture, and checked all plugs, and fuel rail for leakeges and so far to no avail. Has anyone got an idea what might be wrong?? All my sensors have been replaced inc T.D.C Im at a loss with this one if it carries on like this it will burn my starter motor out .
Has it affected the fuel consumption? If so, try another engine temp sensor. Almost sounds as though it thinks the engine's cold all the time.
Failing that, have you cleaned the injectors?
to me that sounds like you need new plugs matey! mine always used to fire up fine in the mornings when cold but was a sod when warm when the plugs were gone! althoguh the coil was the issue with why it kept eating plugs!
i would chuck a new set of plugs in there matey and try that!
Timmo
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Right, Where abouts is the engine temp sensor???. Plugs were done last year as the rotor arm bolt flew through the side of my dizzy cap and i replaced the plugs at the same time. Thats about 1000 miles ago (car been stood for a year) I have a nearly new coil fitted and ive also tried a spare i have and theres no difference. One thing i can say though is it smells very fuely once started??? and thats with a co reading of 0.99% or 3.70% Ht leads are mgnecore so should be still good.
Just to add dizzy cap and rotor arm are new, and plugs are correct 3 electrode ones. The thing is this problem started before i changed the plugs etc so it could be a sensor.
Its had 2 co figures because ive adjusted the afm to run lean at 0.99 % then tried it. Then i re-adjusted it back to 3.70 % so it was richer and tried it and the problem was still there so it ruels out the mixture settings.
It could be one of many things which is what a hate about electronic injection cars Grrrr bring back bosch k jettronic mechanical systems. Right as ive said the coil is nearly new, the leads are magnecore which are about 3 years old, the plugs were fitted in august last year and so was a new rotor arm. Now the injectors are NOT the originals out of the car. When i scrapped the phase 1 i put the injectors out of that engine and in to the k reg as the e reg always run better??? and i think at some point the injectors had been ultra sonicly cleaned. Its a wierd one as i rember last year it started doing this in about july then this year when we replaced the fuel lines the problem disappeared for a week and has just come back Why are french cars so good at fooling people
Just had a look back through the service history of the car and it seems back in 1999 it had a hard starting problem and it was cured by the garage fitting an "rpm" sensor (speed sensor) is this sensor also known as a T.D.C sensor???????????
My car does exactly the same thing and has since I've had it (3.5 years), yet it performs great. Would love to know what it is. I had wondered if it was related to the ignition amp.
. When the car is cold it starts first turn of the key but when its warm it takes around 12 turns of the starter motor before firing up???????. Ive checked the fuel lines and theres no leaks, Ive adjusted the co mixture, and checked all plugs, and fuel rail for leakeges and so far to no avail. Has anyone got an idea what might be wrong?? All my sensors have been replaced inc T.D.C Im at a loss with this one 
if it carries on like this it will burn my starter motor out 
