306GTI-6 gearbox in my 16V
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306GTI-6 gearbox in my 16V
Hi all!
I've bougth myself a new present
It's a 6-speed gearbox that belonged to a peugeot 306GTI-6
Unfortunately I can't pick it up before may, but its waiting! And it'll be fitted!
It should fit with not too much troubles, the only 2 things I need to do is replace the clutch-lever with the one from my 5-speeder and find a short axel of a 306GTI-6, a Xantia 2.0 16V or a ZX 2.0 16V and fit the gearbox-end of that axel to my BX axel. further it should be easy as taking a crap!
I'm really looking forward to this project! as soon as I've got it I'll post some pics!
I've bougth myself a new present
It's a 6-speed gearbox that belonged to a peugeot 306GTI-6
Unfortunately I can't pick it up before may, but its waiting! And it'll be fitted!
It should fit with not too much troubles, the only 2 things I need to do is replace the clutch-lever with the one from my 5-speeder and find a short axel of a 306GTI-6, a Xantia 2.0 16V or a ZX 2.0 16V and fit the gearbox-end of that axel to my BX axel. further it should be easy as taking a crap!
I'm really looking forward to this project! as soon as I've got it I'll post some pics!
You can't spell slaughter without laughter ->I just love my 16V<-
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Not 100% sure its Quite that easy! I know whittyzx hwo's onhere considered it and looked into it a bit more and i think luke did the same??
I Think it uses a different linkage al together for the gears?? Cables insted of rods iirc?? but may be wrong!!!
will be interesting to see how it goes though!
I Think it uses a different linkage al together for the gears?? Cables insted of rods iirc?? but may be wrong!!!
will be interesting to see how it goes though!
Timmo
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it does use cables timmo but only for the reverse gear AFAIA and being a cable its not too much of a mechnical problem to over come, the clutch is also hydraulic which means making up an adapter to have the mechanica cable activate the hydraulic clutch (or possibly use a Xantia pedal box )
Size and space wise its deffinately possible, but i'll be watching with great expectations because i know i'm far from being the only person on here that wants to try it!
Size and space wise its deffinately possible, but i'll be watching with great expectations because i know i'm far from being the only person on here that wants to try it!
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Heys!
A Dutch 16Valver already is fitted with the 6-box.
about the hydraulic clutch, thats just a question of replacing the levers (one pushes, the other one pulls) as for the linkage, I've been told by this dude that it'll fit like a charm!
But as always.... I'll have to wait but when I start on it I'll make a how to with pics and everything. It should be a sweet conversion
A Dutch 16Valver already is fitted with the 6-box.
about the hydraulic clutch, thats just a question of replacing the levers (one pushes, the other one pulls) as for the linkage, I've been told by this dude that it'll fit like a charm!
But as always.... I'll have to wait but when I start on it I'll make a how to with pics and everything. It should be a sweet conversion
You can't spell slaughter without laughter ->I just love my 16V<-
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I've got some pics!
Not too big unfortunately but I'll mail the present owner for hig res pics.
anyways, it looks not too complicated I guess!
Not too big unfortunately but I'll mail the present owner for hig res pics.
anyways, it looks not too complicated I guess!
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I also looked into this when my neighbour was changing the knackered box on his GTi-6, my box was off at the time so we bolted it into my car.
The 5th/6th gear housing (that pressed steel cover on the end of the box) is quite a bit deeper than a standard 5 speed and therefore sticks out from under the inner wing and will foul the front wheel when on full right-hand lock.
This is the main reason that 205's won't go through an MOT after having a 6-speed fitted.
My cheap & easy way round it was to modify a manual steering rack so it turns half a turn less each way (by drilling through the rack at either end & drifting a rollpin in so the pinion has a dead stop each way). I already bought and stripped a recon rack to do it but then decided against the 6-speed. (Though i am still using the manual rack).
Jay
The 5th/6th gear housing (that pressed steel cover on the end of the box) is quite a bit deeper than a standard 5 speed and therefore sticks out from under the inner wing and will foul the front wheel when on full right-hand lock.
This is the main reason that 205's won't go through an MOT after having a 6-speed fitted.
My cheap & easy way round it was to modify a manual steering rack so it turns half a turn less each way (by drilling through the rack at either end & drifting a rollpin in so the pinion has a dead stop each way). I already bought and stripped a recon rack to do it but then decided against the 6-speed. (Though i am still using the manual rack).
Jay
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clutch is not hydrolic but it doe's work backwards like the deiseld the release bearing is mounted to the cover
reverse has a cable that needs pulling so it can be selected other than that linkage same as a normal be3
and yes side by side they are a fair bit longer
ive got a box in my shed but i can't find a gti6 linkage cheap enough at the moment when i do then i will probally put it in the zx but... that will be after the headwork is finished now
reverse has a cable that needs pulling so it can be selected other than that linkage same as a normal be3
and yes side by side they are a fair bit longer
ive got a box in my shed but i can't find a gti6 linkage cheap enough at the moment when i do then i will probally put it in the zx but... that will be after the headwork is finished now
6 speed
It is quite simple the biggest issue is the afore mentioned push/pull differences.
Myself and the Langworth Motorsport guys looked at it all when we rebuilt my gearbox as they had a GTi-6 in the workshop at the same time, I would be inclined to revise the ratios though as IIRC the 6 speed box is very similar to the 5 speed but just with an extra cog squeezed in.
Look forward to seeing the results though
Cheers
Luke
Myself and the Langworth Motorsport guys looked at it all when we rebuilt my gearbox as they had a GTi-6 in the workshop at the same time, I would be inclined to revise the ratios though as IIRC the 6 speed box is very similar to the 5 speed but just with an extra cog squeezed in.
Look forward to seeing the results though
Cheers
Luke
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1989 BX 16valve White 70k almost up to scratch